TIL a genuine discussion is spamming k.
Reading the ongoing discussion makes it very hard to give the pvpers who posted here the credibly they think they deserve. The way some discuss here seems a little immature. But I've seen that on both sides in the past, so nothing special I guess.
The main gist im seeign here is that the pvpers want pvp on in all town, thats basically everything that's been brought up so far. But its been discussed in away as if pvp will be off on the entire server. It perplexes me a bit.
There will still be towns with pvp on. And its not like pvp will be locked away in another dimension, there is a whole ruined nation where everyone has to go to get the best resources and gear. I see lots of opportunities for pvp. To me it looks way more exiting than jumping unsuspecting players in their town. And yes there are ways to keep pvp out of a town even with forced pvp, but they are ugly as hell. To me at least.